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Poster: sakanaband Date: May 8, 2013 9:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH Barton Hall 1977

Strat, try this one for size:

http://archive.org/details/gd1977-03-19.mtx.hansokolow.96856.flac16

This is my fave of 1977 by a mile. It sizzles with an exuberance and playfulness that is danged impressive and rarely matched in all GD history, I think. Like Barton Hall, each song is "top-shelf" and one of the best every played. This matrix is really wonderful and best experienced with good earphones for it to really shine the brightest.

To sample the aforementioned delights, just listen to the first 2 - 3 minutes of 'Eyes' it gives a preview of the joyous proceeding happening here. The UJB encore is nearly sacred in its greatness. Sorry to gush, but this show has become a sort of mission for me lately. Just gotta hear it to believe it!

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 8, 2013 12:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH Barton Hall 1977

Hey!!!??? No wonder I hate TS!

Was here, er, there, so, yes, I vote for THIS one as "BEST" ever...ahem.

Was also the first show I brought my kid sister to...

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Poster: stratocaster Date: May 8, 2013 9:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH Barton Hall 1977

very aware of this show, most folks might be initially drawn to 03-18 due to the full Terrapin Station and the first Fire and the classic Scarlet and Row Jimmy from 03-20, but 03-19 is the best show of the stand, one of the better shows of the year...I would have to listen to it again quite frankly, it's been awhile...

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: May 8, 2013 5:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH Barton Hall 1977

You'll always get varying opinions on whether Barton is the "best" show of '77 or not. Some still argue it's the best, period, but I agree comparing eras is almost impossible.

What's not impossible is recognizing that even if you don't think 5/8 is the best show of '77 (I don't), you must agree that it at the very least belongs in the conversation for such consideration. '77 is a hard year given how many truly outstanding shows there are to choose from, and even tho' I put 10/29 on the ultimate pedestal, I can easily concede that shows such as 5/8, 3/20, 5/9, 6/9, 9/3, 12/29, and hell, why not even 5/13 all could easily be argued for top honors.

My point being that Barton may not be "best" but it is certainly NOT overrated.

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: May 9, 2013 10:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH Barton Hall 1977


but isn't that the definition of over rated? Nobody is saying it is a bad show, just that it is NOT the greatest piece of music from the 20th century...as many claim. Over rated.

So if you are saying it is one hell of a great GD show - that is not over rating it.

But if you, like many others, claim it to be the single greatest event in R&R history, that would be over rating it - dramatically.

To me which ever GD show is the greatest - would be the single greatest event in R&R history.

I've had a copy of Barton since about 1982, always liked it but never worshipped it...now Harper College on the other hand I did worship back then...as I had a great board of it as well as tehe 1/22/78 show, which I consider to be many levels of magnitude better than 5/8.

But that is all opinion and no mater how many people hold an opinion it is still just an opinion.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: May 9, 2013 12:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH Barton Hall 1977

Maybe we're splitting hairs but my definition of overrated is a show that is in every objective way possible mediocre or worse yet is somehow exalted in terms of--if not BEST--then definitely ONE OF the best...and to my ears, Barton DOES have a reasonable seat at the table for "best of" consideration.

There's a reason beyond availability of the tapes that the show has been talked about so much over the years--things you can point to: the epic DEW, the very silky Scarlet>Fire, the super-funked out Dancin'...and the overall excellence of the show in terms of consistency and well-played set list w/almost no flaws.

It is only overrated in the sense of being "best ever"...and you'd be hard pressed to say ANY show--even my personal all time fave--isn't "overrated" if it's being called THE best out of 2,000+ shows they played.

Any show that comes up again and again (Harpur, 8/27/72, and many others) in "best of" discussions by a vast number of 'heads is likely not overrated.